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That's the first thing I noticed too. Big difference. Very well done, Hannum!

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Ok its been a while since i have written anything on this forum this is some think i wrote on a facebook group and i believe it needs to be added to this thread ""I have come across something tonight while reading an old patent for a HHO cell where it was stated that because of the hho being added to an engine the extra oxygen added to the fuel cause's a better burn Now i have heard this same argument in present day when people say that the extra oxygen causes problems with the o2 sensors . Lets get something correct there is not extra O2 added because you are adding HHO. Lets assume that every thing in the combustion chamber fuel and air = 100 % now lets say fuel is 20% and air /o2 is 80% Now if we add HHO in to an normal aspirated engine the fuel percentage well stay the same but the percentage of air/ o2 will be different but not more as most people seem to think . In order for the HHO to get into the combustion chamber the HHO well restrict the space that it takes up from being filled with Air/o2 . so to make it easier to under stand lets say HHO is H=2% and the O = 1% so there is HHO so that's 2% +2% +1% entering the chamber + the fuel 20% so that's 25% so far. Now to fill the chamber to 100% we need 75% . ;-) so where is this "extra Oxygen" that some people talk about when they add HHO to and engine and the same applies with adding H2 or H3 the volume of O2 into the chamber is less not more "".

Hey Steve,
Welcome to the Forum......
There is a heap of info here for you to digest..... Hope you find what you are looking for..,.....
Regards
Paul.....

My name is Steve ands I live in a WORLD OF GREED And Lies ..... Florida USA 

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I always have 4 things to arrest the falsh back.
1- Flash back arrestor as in pics.
2- Flash back arrestor with copper wool or SS wool.
3- Lid of bubbler I make is very thin.
4- Pipe from Kit to bubbler is not cliped.
I know how power full is the BOOM.

Two Flashback arrestors are better than one....

The design has merit and I would make it the first in line and then the Copper wool.

The only question I have is when there is a backfire, how long would it take for the Ball to engage and block the hole? Surely there would be envelloping flames around the ball while the pressure builds up and these flames have the chance to ignite the HHO in the pipe before the ball engages.

There has to be a huge pressure buildup to physically move the ball into place - The Copper wool unit needs no pressure to be effective

Ball is very light in weight but tough as soon it gets pressure comming back it fix in pot & block the way back
more over the lid is thumb pressed & it goes off.
Yes that copper wool F Back aresstor also work good.
Either one can be used as scandory F back arrestor.
It had proved to be save at least for me.

This is interesting, but I have to ask about the speed the ball stops the Flashback.

If there was a H charged pipeline and there was a backfire, how long would it take for a pressire build up to push the ball onto the pipe opening?

The other question I have is how fast would a flashback occur and what delay would there be while the pressure built up?

Using Copper wool tends to stop all going back to the inlet valve.

Does this system isolate ALL the flammable gasses?

I am a little skeptical on its efficiency Nom......