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[stacka]

Quick Question,  Does anyone know if it is normal in HHo production to have a vapour appear from the bubbler or outlet pipe from the producer ?

[JohnBaxter]

I think this will be from temperature of the water. Have you checked the working temperature?

Closer plates will allow you to use less electrolyte and this should give you less amps. This should keep the temp lower. A PWM will further reduce amps and temp in production.

I was reading somewhere that increased temp is OK just for the gas. One guy actually had the bubbler outlet pipe go past the exhaust manifold to heat the gas up before going into the air inlet.

[PDJ]

I think the temp statement may only partially be possible. No matter what temp in the cell, it should cool when going through the bubbler..

Might be an idea to check on water level in the bubbler. See if it is rising. If this is so it could either be froth from cell getting into the bubbler, or if the cell is running too hot and starting to boil the steam will gather in the bubbler and when cool start to rise the water level.

If you have an agressive HHO flow into the bubbler the fast flow of HHO may be bubbling and there is vapour as a result. Try channeling the gas through several smaller tubes in different locations in the bubbler to decrease the amount of bubbles in one location.

[stacka]

Thanks for your comments guys,
I have since found out that some visable vapour is normal even at low temp. Was just wondering as i have cells now that are running at a high temp of 40 deg C even after running for 3 hrs.

[JohnBaxter]

Now that I think about it you couldn't not get condensation, after all it is a 100% humidity environment. The simple fact that there are bubbles rising to the surface and popping at the top will make sure there is a heap of moisture in the air/HHO mix.

I can not see inside my bubbler but I can see the the water level tube on the side. There has always been a little moisture above the water level. I did not worry about it because I did not see any in the tube going to the air intake.

I still think temperature has a lot to do with it. The water level tube on the side of my kettle does not have any moisture above the water level when the water is cold. As soon as the kettle boils there is water vapour there.

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[lizard56]

Hello and thanks in advance for your help. I have build a dry cell and it is producing a good amount of hydrogen using KOH in the mixture and running at 13 amps.
My problem is that instead of circulating the mixture out the top of the cell, into the reservior and returning back into the bottom of the cell, it also pushes some fluid/hydrogen out of the bottom hose of the cell which flows up into the bottom of the reservoir, filling it to overflowing, leaving the cell with almost no fluid in it.
Because of this I have not been able to run it for very long. I have raised the reservior and the base of it is now 15cm above the top of the cell. This made no difference. Turn the power off and the water drains back into the cell. I have had the bubbler outlet just venting into the air to make sure there is no pressure build up.
So, any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have been reading plenty of info on the subject but have not come across this problem anywhere.  Thanking you, Lindsay.

[PDJ]

My problem is that instead of circulating the mixture out the top of the cell, into the reservior and returning back into the bottom of the cell, it also pushes some fluid/hydrogen out of the bottom hose of the cell which flows up into the bottom of the reservoir, filling it to overflowing, leaving the cell with almost no fluid in it.

Interesting - I don't think it is gravity (though it helps having the reservoir higher), it is increased pressure from the act of making the HHO. When the plates start producing HHO there is a pressure build up within the Dry Cell. This will let the pressure try and escape through any possible outlet (top and botom)

I am no expert, but you might like to do two things.

• Increase the diameter of the pipe going from the top of your cell
• Decrease the diameter of the pipe refilling the cell at the bottom

Whatever pressure is established will find it easier to go through the larger pipe at the top.

I did a bit of Googling for acid resistant one way valves but only found expensive pressure valves.

There are HHO One way valves made for the gas but I was not able to find any for the electrolyte.

My reservoir has always been higher with a small pipe to the cell and i have never had your problem.

Try changing the pipe diameters - let us know how you go.

PS - If you have a pic of your setup it could help