hho using tube in tube

[PDJ]

The good news is everything is now working well and I'm looking forward to starting my tests again.   

Well done.......
Wish I could say the same for my wife's car - just this minute arrived home with her car on a tow truck (dead alternator). Just been one thing after another lately with her car and O'Tool is working overtime (lol).

[navaradownunder]

hi all.
Mr O'tool is going well. After everything else settled down, my poor old ute started started to idle rough (stalled a couple of times) but would go ok with a few revs. 
More head scratching later ....... i found a very small crack in a rubber fuel hose at the fuel tank  It is never the easy to get at one is it 
Apparently the hole was small enough for the pump to handle the air with a few revs but not at idle.
The HHO gen is working well. I'm in the process of rebuilding it in a more permanent fashion. This time i am using screw in fittings instead of boring a hole and sealing the fittings  with silicon.
When this is done I will be restarting my fuel tests 


If I keep on improving my thinking.
It will impact my beliefs.
Which will change my expectations.
Which effects my attitude.
Which changes my behaviour.
Which impacts my performance.
And that will change my life.

Till next time.

[navaradownunder]

Hi all. After another period that i would rather forget, i am back working on my HHO project. My ute has gone into retirement (it still is fitted with  HHO) just not being used much.
I am now fitting 1 of the the short tube sets under the bonnet of my wagon. It is a Nissan Terrano with a TD27T, turbo diesel with an auto transmission. The same set up as my ute.
The ute convinced me that the the effort is worth it, even without getting a proper fuel test done. There is a space problem in the wagon under the bonnet, but life was not meant to be easy.   
So unless there is more drama in my life I should have an update in a week or so.
 Till then, bye for now.

[PDJ]

If I keep on improving my thinking.
It will impact my beliefs.
Which will change my expectations.
Which effects my attitude.
Which changes my behaviour.
Which impacts my performance.
And that will change my life.

Gotta love this.......

I remember reading somewhere about a quote that Albert Einstein made - If I remember right it goes something like this:

"It is not that I am more intelligent than anyone else, it is just that I am that stubborn and pedantic I keep on working at it until I find a way"

[navaradownunder]

hi all.
it has finally happened ... i have managed to fit the HHO generator under the bonnet of my wagon.   
it is working ok .. yet to start doing fuel test.
a rough out put test gave me approx 0.5 lt / min at 14 amp. in rather cold water.
since then i have done a few 60 km runs, with stops, and the 15 amp fuse is holding, so some increase in temp (up to 44 C) has not led to a big increase in amps.
the wagon drives like normal, although i think there is a slight reduction in pedal at cruise. i will empty this tank (300 km)to let things settle before starting testing.

till next time.

[navaradownunder]

hi all. a quick update.
everything was working o.k. on short runs (up to 30 mins) then i did a 1.30 hr run and the 15 amp fuse let go. replaced it with a 20 amp for the return and the temp got up to a bit over 60 deg C. the next day i checked the genny  level ... and it was 1/2 empty !!! i guess it got too hot.
i have now made a couple of flat discs, from a clear plastic that i found in the shed, the size of the outer tube. 1 has a 4 small holes that line up with the gaps between tubes the other has a single 8 mm wide slot going into the centre. i have cable tied them to the top (slotted) and bottom (holes) of the tubes to try and reduce stray current. using the same mix that was in it the amp draw was reduced by about 3 amps down to 14.5 amp at 40 deg C. i have not yet checked the litres/ min but the temp seems to be staying below 46 C and the 15 amp fuse is holding ... so far.



 till next time.

[PDJ]

Hey - You seen how many people have visited your thread? - You are becoming a ledgend in your own time 

[navaradownunder]

Hi all.
 I have been running  HHO on my wagon for the last 2000 km. It runs like it always has, but it is a lot quieter than normal. The "diesel knock" at idle is greatly reduced. It does seem to cruise with a little less foot but this has not shown up in the fuel used. This could because I am using any extra power to go faster up hills or 0.5 lt/min is not enough to make a big change. At worst the fuel used has not changed but under less than ideal test conditions i have not noticed any improvement.

The genny it's self has been good. It runs below 50 deg C at less than 15 amp (the plastic caps appear to work) and uses 150 ml water per 600 km travelled. It is sort of self filling .... the bubbler is emptied into the genny as it cools. This may not be ideal .. but it works.

My next move will be to try and increase the output. To do this will require either a larger fluid capacity to keep the temp down or option 2 change to a buy a pre made dry cell with a larger output  and large fluid container.  Time, space and $ will decide the result.

Suggestions and/or comments are welcome.

Till next time.

[PDJ]

Unless you were using 100% of your fuel before, your generator must be working. Remember that the purpose is to introduce a medium that helps with combustion of your diesel and any amount of gas is beneficial.

Total surface area + right configuration +power + acid medium = HHO

I had problems with output at first and reconfigured my plate assembly making plates closer together. This gave me more output.

Have you tried working out the total surface area of your negatives & Positives? Are they equal? I should imagine it very difficult to balance your setup. Simply increasing your electrolyte density will give more gas but more heat as well.

I remember doing basic tests with only two plates and had to crank up the amps to get gas. The closer the plates were the more gas and heat there was. The more neutral plates and total surface area the less temperature because I was running 2v per plate. Any less than 2v and it was worse.

There are a few good pre-made units available but you have to be careful. Some are very basic and the configuration and distances seem iffy. See if you can find a supplier with testimonies from previous happy customers.

Dry cell setups feed their electrolyte from a reservoir and even though they are called Dry Cells their plates are always wet and max production.